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amandabobanda
I guess these tips could apply to men as well! icon_wink.gif

1. Tip from Tae Kwon Do: The elbow is the strongest point on your body. If you are close enough to use it, do!

2. If a robber asks for your wallet and/or purse, DO NOT HAND IT TO HIM. Toss it away from you....chances are that he is more interested in your wallet and/or purse than you, and he will go for the wallet/purse. RUN LIKE MAD IN THE OTHER DIRECTION!

3. If you are ever thrown into the trunk of a car, kick out the back tail lights and stick your arm out the hole and start waving like crazy. The driver won't see you, but everybody else will. This has saved lives.

4. Women have a tendency to get into their cars after shopping, eating, working, etc., and just sit (doing their checkbook, or making a list, etc.(DON'T DO THIS!) The predator will be watching you, and this is the perfect
opportunity for him to get in on the passenger side, put a gun to your head, and tell you where to go. AS SOON AS YOU GET INTO YOUR CAR, LOCK THE DOORS AND LEAVE.

5. A few notes about getting into your car in a parking lot, or parking garage: A.) Be aware: look around you, look into your car, at the passenger side floor, and in the back seat. B.) If you are parked next to a big van, enter your car from the passenger door. Most serial killers attack their victims by pulling them into their vans while the women are attempting to get into their cars. C.) Look at the car parked on the driver's side of your vehicle, and the
passenger side. If a male is sitting alone in the seat nearest your car, you may want to walk back into the mall, or work, and get a guard/policeman to walk you back out. IT IS ALWAYS BETTER TO BE SAFE THAN SORRY. (And better paranoid than dead.)

6. ALWAYS take the elevator instead of the stairs. (Stairwells are horrible places to be alone and the perfect crime spot).

7. If the predator has a gun and you are not under his control, ALWAYS RUN! The predator will only hit you (a running target) 4 in 100 times; And even then, it most likely WILL NOT be a vital organ. RUN!

8. As women, we are always trying to be sympathetic: STOP. It may get you raped, or killed. Ted Bundy, the serial killer, was a good-looking, well educated man, who ALWAYS played on the sympathies of unsuspecting women. He
walked with a cane, or a limp, and often asked "for help" into his vehicle or with his vehicle, which is when he abducted his next victim.

9. Someone just told me that her friend heard a crying baby on her porch the night before last, and she called the police because it was late and she thought it was weird. The police told her "Whatever you do, DO NOT open the door." The lady then said that it sounded like the baby had crawled near a window, a nd she was worried that it would crawl to the street and get run over. The policeman said, "We already have a unit on the way, whatever you do, DO NOT open the door." He told her that they think a serial killer has a baby's cry recorded and uses it to coax women out of their homes thinking that someone dropped off a baby. He said they have not verified it, but have had several calls by women saying they heard baby's cries outside their doors when they're home alone at night. Please pass this on and DO NOT open the door for a crying baby.----This e-mail should probably be taken seriously because the Crying Baby theory was mentioned on America's Most Wanted this past Saturday when they
profiled the serial killer in Louisiana.
Jason
Good information there thumbup1.gif
terabyte
Good tips Amanda! I will pass this list on. Thanks!
loretta
I AM IN TAKE-KWAN-DO! PURPLE BELT!
-=rex=-
I will force my wife to read it.
Although she is always packing so in her case... (purely in jest!)

#1 - shoot them
#2 - shoot them
#3 - shoot the lock
#4 - lock the doors and if someone approaches shoot them
#5 - If you are parked next to a big van shoot the driver then leave, If a male is sitting alone in the seat nearest your car shoot him then leave.
#6 - stairs are great exercise although if you are approached shoot them
#7 - Always remember that the predator may also have a gun, get the drop on them and shoot first.
#8 - Just to be safe shoot all a good-looking, well educated men
#9 - If you hear a crying baby on your porch come out shooting.
adhesive
QUOTE(=rex=- @ May 12 2004, 01:10 AM)
I will force my wife to read it.
Although she is always packing so in her case... (purely in jest!)

#1 - shoot them
#2 - shoot them
#3 - shoot the lock
#4 - lock the doors and if someone approaches shoot them
#5 -  If you are parked next to a big van shoot the driver then leave, If a male is sitting alone in the seat nearest your car shoot him then leave.
#6 - stairs are great exercise although if you are approached shoot them
#7 - Always remember that the predator may also have a gun, get the drop on them and shoot first.
#8 - Just to be safe shoot all a good-looking, well educated men
#9 - If you hear a crying baby on your porch come out shooting.

hahah. best advice in this thread by far.
kalmark
QUOTE(amandabobanda @ May 11 2004, 11:37 PM)
7. If the predator has a gun and you are not under his control, ALWAYS RUN! The predator will only hit you (a running target) 4 in 100 times; And even then, it most likely WILL NOT be a vital organ. RUN!

Sounds fun! icon_rolleyes.gif

Good tips though thumbup1.gif
Varthlokkur
QUOTE(=rex=- @ May 11 2004, 05:10 PM)
I will force my wife to read it.
Although she is always packing so in her case... (purely in jest!)

#1 - shoot them
#2 - shoot them
#3 - shoot the lock
#4 - lock the doors and if someone approaches shoot them
#5 - If you are parked next to a big van shoot the driver then leave, If a male is sitting alone in the seat nearest your car shoot him then leave.
#6 - stairs are great exercise although if you are approached shoot them
#7 - Always remember that the predator may also have a gun, get the drop on them and shoot first.
#8 - Just to be safe shoot all a good-looking, well educated men
#9 - If you hear a crying baby on your porch come out shooting.

Now do there have to be bad people involved with all this shooting? icon_smile.gif
Varthlokkur
I always heard women were supposed to grab, twist, and pull. icon_eek.gif
the_burner
QUOTE(Varthlokkur @ May 11 2004, 06:02 PM)
I always heard women were supposed to grab, twist, and pull. icon_eek.gif

Jaysus, Joseph and Mary. That's harsh especially if you are only offering a drink. LOL. A firm no will suffice. cocky.gif
burntkat
QUOTE(amandabobanda @ May 11 2004, 05:37 PM)
I guess these tips could apply to men as well! icon_wink.gif

1. Tip from Tae Kwon Do: The elbow is the strongest point on your body. If you are close enough to use it, do!

2. If a robber asks for your wallet and/or purse, DO NOT HAND IT TO HIM. Toss it away from you....chances are that he is more interested in your wallet and/or purse than you, and he will go for the wallet/purse. RUN LIKE MAD IN THE OTHER DIRECTION!

3. If you are ever thrown into the trunk of a car, kick out the back tail lights and stick your arm out the hole and start waving like crazy. The driver won't see you, but everybody else will. This has saved lives.

4. Women have a tendency to get into their cars after shopping, eating, working, etc., and just sit (doing their checkbook, or making a list, etc.(DON'T DO THIS!) The predator will be watching you, and this is the perfect
opportunity for him to get in on the passenger side, put a gun to your head, and tell you where to go. AS SOON AS YOU GET INTO YOUR CAR, LOCK THE DOORS AND LEAVE.

5. A few notes about getting into your car in a parking lot, or parking garage: A.) Be aware: look around you, look into your car, at the passenger side floor, and in the back seat. B.) If you are parked next to a big van, enter your car from the passenger door. Most serial killers attack their victims by pulling them into their vans while the women are attempting to get into their cars. C.) Look at the car parked on the driver's side of your vehicle, and the
passenger side. If a male is sitting alone in the seat nearest your car, you may want to walk back into the mall, or work, and get a guard/policeman to walk you back out. IT IS ALWAYS BETTER TO BE SAFE THAN SORRY. (And better paranoid than dead.)

6. ALWAYS take the elevator instead of the stairs. (Stairwells are horrible places to be alone and the perfect crime spot).

7. If the predator has a gun and you are not under his control, ALWAYS RUN! The predator will only hit you (a running target) 4 in 100 times; And even then, it most likely WILL NOT be a vital organ. RUN!

8. As women, we are always trying to be sympathetic: STOP. It may get you raped, or killed. Ted Bundy, the serial killer, was a good-looking, well educated man, who ALWAYS played on the sympathies of unsuspecting women. He
walked with a cane, or a limp, and often asked "for help" into his vehicle or with his vehicle, which is when he abducted his next victim.

9. Someone just told me that her friend heard a crying baby on her porch the night before last, and she called the police because it was late and she thought it was weird. The police told her "Whatever you do, DO NOT open the door." The lady then said that it sounded like the baby had crawled near a window, a nd she was worried that it would crawl to the street and get run over. The policeman said, "We already have a unit on the way, whatever you do, DO NOT open the door." He told her that they think a serial killer has a baby's cry recorded and uses it to coax women out of their homes thinking that someone dropped off a baby. He said they have not verified it, but have had several calls by women saying they heard baby's cries outside their doors when they're home alone at night. Please pass this on and DO NOT open the door for a crying baby.----This e-mail should probably be taken seriously because the Crying Baby theory was mentioned on America's Most Wanted this past Saturday when they
profiled the serial killer in Louisiana.

replies:

1- better yet-- when striking, no matter what part you are using, always aim for a point 3 feet beyond the target, and follow through with your body weight. This little tip makes 98 pound weaklings hit like killers <and is taught during the first day of any decent unarmed combat instruction>. Too many folks stop once they've contacted the face/chest/whatever, and this takes away MASSIVE amounts of force that would otherwise be imparted to the target.

2. Very likely to get you stabbed or shot. Don't piss them off. This one's a judgement call by situation, though.

3. Don't kick while the car is stopped-- the impact will be felt through the body, and your abducter will take care of the situation. Do it while the vehicle is in motion, preferably on rough curfaces.

4&5 are good.

6 is iffy. Once the doors in an elevator close, you're not going anywhere until they open-- and the Emergency Stop button could make that a very long time. On stairs, you can always run <but good luck>. If the stairway is dark, do not take it, of course.

Bad thing about stairs is-- every landing and change of direction is a new chance for ambush. This is why we always ran two and preferably three fireteams on stairs when we did CQB drills.

7. Unless it's some idiot off the block who has no clue how to use a weapon, absolute BS. Bullets travel lots faster than you do. If he's not put three rounds ni your head by the time you've taken 5 steps, you are VERY lucky.

Also- vital organ or not-- if he manages to put a round in your lower extremities, I suspect you'll find it FAR too painful to run. If he's carrying serious firepower like an M1911 <.45 ACP>, you'll have great big holes in you that will prevent it.

8. Umm. DUH!?

9. Hard to say if it's legite or not, but it's certainly common sense not to open the door. Also- if someone "just wants to use the phone"- do NOT answer the door- if you must be a good samaritan, make two calls-- 1 to your local police describing the situation, FIRST... THEN-- to the number the individual wants you to call. If they tell you they can't give the number to you for you to call for them, call 911 and do NOT hang up.

Don't mean to be a sharpshooter- but I've worked in Security and combatives in one way or another for years <Army Infantry, commercial and residential systems installations, Martial arts <ok, not work but still fits>, and now computers>.
burntkat
QUOTE(Varthlokkur @ May 11 2004, 07:02 PM)
I always heard women were supposed to grab, twist, and pull. icon_eek.gif

hehe-- that's only after we get frisky... and only if she's cute. icon_wink.gif
burntkat
QUOTE(loretta @ May 11 2004, 06:07 PM)
I AM IN TAKE-KWAN-DO! PURPLE BELT!

.. which means you know just enough to get your ass kicked. icon_cool.gif

<no really>
pappy177
fast reply works , turned it on in personal settings
queen bw
QUOTE(burntkat @ May 11 2004, 09:06 PM)
.. which means you know just enough to get your ass kicked. icon_cool.gif

<no really>

Very true.
gandalfthewizard
A knee to the bollocks is a very effective way to down a male attacker - if not a knee then a punch or a head butt - failing all else, bite! icon_wink.gif

Burntkat makes a good point about the elevator emergency stop but then you have to think that your attacker ain't going no place either until the doors are open - what's more likely is that your attacker will either attack while the elevator is in motion between floors or wait until you get off and then follow you out.

G

icon_smile.gif
burntkat
Gandalf-- you owe me a monitor... icon_cool.gif

<I read your sig. Do I want to ask where that came from?>
-=rex=-
BTW - ran the last one through snopes:

Claim: A serial killer is luring women from their homes by playing a recording of a crying baby.

Status: False.

Example: [Collected on the Internet, 2003]
amandabobanda
I'm sure grab, twist, and pull works lovely *cheers*

A couple of things I've learned....

When you make a fist to go to punch someone, have your thumb over your fingers as opposed to against the side of your index finger. And make sure to follow through with the elbow!!

When you go to stomp on someone's foot, have the back of your foot go against the person's shin and use full force on the other's foot where it meets the shin thumbup1.gif
Jason
QUOTE(amandabobanda @ May 12 2004, 05:22 PM)
I'm sure grab, twist, and pull works lovely *cheers*

A couple of things I've learned....

When you make a fist to go to punch someone, have your thumb over your fingers as opposed to against the side of your index finger. And make sure to follow through with the elbow!!

When you go to stomp on someone's foot, have the back of your foot go against the person's shin and use full force on the other's foot where it meets the shin  thumbup1.gif

You sound like a nice person icon_rolleyes.gif icon_mrgreen.gif
amandabobanda
QUOTE(Jason @ May 12 2004, 10:16 AM)
QUOTE(amandabobanda @ May 12 2004, 05:22 PM)
I'm sure grab, twist, and pull works lovely *cheers*

A couple of things I've learned....

When you make a fist to go to punch someone, have your thumb over your fingers as opposed to against the side of your index finger. And make sure to follow through with the elbow!!

When you go to stomp on someone's foot, have the back of your foot go against the person's shin and use full force on the other's foot where it meets the shin  thumbup1.gif

You sound like a nice person icon_rolleyes.gif icon_mrgreen.gif

Thank you!!

Those were two techniques I learned in a session of self-defense for Phys Ed in Grade 9. icon_mrgreen.gif (except for the elbow follow through thing...a friend taught me that later).

However, I have yet to use them!!

Oooh, one more thing. Having a confident and purposeful walk helps, too.
-=rex=-
QUOTE(amandabobanda @ May 12 2004, 12:27 PM)
Oooh, one more thing. Having a confident and purposeful walk helps, too.

Swingin' the hips and shakin' the ass? cocky.gif
the_burner
QUOTE(=rex=- @ May 12 2004, 12:45 PM)
Swingin' the hips and shakin' the ass? cocky.gif

I guess the theory is the more that are attracted the less likely that there are "detractors" in the crowd. fragend013.gif
amandabobanda
QUOTE(=rex=- @ May 12 2004, 10:45 AM)
Swingin' the hips and shakin' the ass? cocky.gif

icon_lol.gif Yes, something like that.
odie
shake, shake, shake.... shake, shake, shake... shake your booty!!! icon_mrgreen.gif
-=rex=-
QUOTE(amandabobanda @ May 12 2004, 12:58 PM)
icon_lol.gif Yes, something like that.

Wow between that answer and the additional violent moves you've added I'm growing quite found of you... LOL icon_wink.gif
amandabobanda
QUOTE(=rex=- @ May 12 2004, 11:25 AM)
Wow between that answer and the additional violent moves you've added I'm growing quite found of you... LOL icon_wink.gif

ah, such sweet things you say!!

Well, that's really all the advice I have to offer unless having a big beefy guy by your side at all times counts...

I don't think I'd mind that...
gandalfthewizard
QUOTE(burntkat @ May 12 2004, 05:13 PM)
Gandalf-- you owe me a monitor... icon_cool.gif

<I read your sig. Do I want to ask where that came from?>

LOL!! I can't remember where I heard that from! Not from personal experience if that's what you're thinking!! icon_wink.gif

G

icon_smile.gif
the_burner
It's a beauty, there is no doubt. icon_wink.gif
Tul
Hm, does this kinda thing happen alot where you live??
amandabobanda
Getting attacked?
-=rex=-
QUOTE(Tul @ May 13 2004, 05:03 PM)
Hm, does this kinda thing happen alot where you live??

Yes, swingin' hips and shakin' ass are quite prevelant in the states.
The GazMeister
QUOTE(=rex=- @ May 13 2004, 11:09 PM)
Yes, swingin' hips and shakin' ass are quite prevelant in the states.

Well send some over here!! thumbup1.gif
the_burner
QUOTE(=rex=- @ May 13 2004, 05:09 PM)
Yes, swingin' hips and shakin' ass are quite prevelant in the states.

Hot diggidy dang. I'll be right there. icon_biggrin.gif
Demon
QUOTE(Varthlokkur @ May 11 2004, 07:02 PM)
I always heard women were supposed to grab, twist, and pull. icon_eek.gif

Varth, be serious! We're talking about self-defense here not foreplay!!!!!
Kingbob
my advice.... come to my house

and lets get it on yes.gif
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