Full Version: overclocking video cards and ram
i hear many things about overclocking ram and video cards but i have a few questions about that....how is it done and how much does it help?
What exactly you mean there brady? Ram as in video card ram, or ram as in system ram? Video card? What video card do you have. I use RivaTuner, that works well for me for Video Cards, and takes both the video GPU/RAM clocks you can adjust. As for system memory, that is done in the BIOS, which if I'm not going to explain until you reply because It's risky. You can also adjust memory from your desktop, but risky, it is. You can screw up your Windows partition doing that... 
RivaTuner = GPU O/cing
BIOS (FSB) = Memory
And no, the general consensus will state that O/Cing is a waste of time, and it generally is for 24/7 usage. I O/C my 2.4C to 3.0 24/7. 250 FSB 5:4 Divider, 2,2,2,5 timings.
Most you'll see is benchmark results for the most part.
RivaTuner = GPU O/cing
BIOS (FSB) = Memory
And no, the general consensus will state that O/Cing is a waste of time, and it generally is for 24/7 usage. I O/C my 2.4C to 3.0 24/7. 250 FSB 5:4 Divider, 2,2,2,5 timings.
Most you'll see is benchmark results for the most part.
Its a hoby that alot of people enjoy , read , listen to overclockers like Goku and don't get to carried away and burn it up.
Yes yes yes, do NOT get carried away, its a terrible hobby lemme tell you lol. Too much $$$ get's sinked into it. 
welll...i was wanting the benefits of both video card and ram o/c'ing and how to do it...sorry about hte confusion.
Benefits would be: More bang for buck
Slightly faster FPS in games
Higher Benchmark Numbers
Slightly less load time (higher FSB)
Bigger memory BW
The cons would be: Risk of frying hardware
Lower life of peices of hardware if volts are added (this is often taken the wrong way, the cpu will last 6-7 yeras instead of 7-8/8-9)
Overheating can occur
Lots of frustration
Damaging Windows Partition (FSB)
That's just a few off the top of my head... hmmm
Slightly faster FPS in games
Higher Benchmark Numbers
Slightly less load time (higher FSB)
Bigger memory BW
The cons would be: Risk of frying hardware
Lower life of peices of hardware if volts are added (this is often taken the wrong way, the cpu will last 6-7 yeras instead of 7-8/8-9)
Overheating can occur
Lots of frustration
Damaging Windows Partition (FSB)
That's just a few off the top of my head... hmmm
uhhh... I wanna O/C this thing... but theres a few problems: There's no jumpers, The BIOS locked the settings, theres none of those little series of switches (cant remember what they're called, they do the same thing as jumpers) and I dont wanna be stuck with a crappy 2.4 GHz processor... I've already used CPUFSB and it could only get it up to 2.402 GHz (wow... a whole 102 MHz faster... stock its a Celeron 2.3 GHz)
Anybody got any suggestions?
Anybody got any suggestions?
What's the rest of your system? Your overclock can be severly hindered by motherboard options, or you could just have a bad clocking chips. Celery's usualy don't get much more than they have in my past experiences. Having PC100/PC133 could also be hurting you if you have it.
The board it uses is an Intel 82845G/GL/GE/PE/GV chipset (ugh...) , 256 MB ram 233 Pin PC2100. the Motherboard PLL is Cypress CY28346 . 80 GB 5400 RPM HDD yadda yadda yadda... Basically the integrated GFX card (Intel 'Extreme' Graphics), the Processor (Celeron 2.3 GHz, 100 MHz FSB, 23x multiplier), the Mainboard (Intel 82845G/GL/GE/PE/GV chipset), all that is Intel. I know the GeForce FX isnt gonna go any faster, and I know that Intel locks their processors at the factory, so my only option is to increase the FSB itself (I think). I managed to get it up to a pitiful 105 MHz (via CPUCool, stock is 100 MHz), but I wanna know if this can go any faster.
If I can get the mobo to 133 MHz, then I'll be good, but I dont really think a Celeron could handle that kinda torture. my RAM can take it (I looked it up at their website), and I'd be at 3059 MHz if I could get the FSB to a mere 133 *drool*
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2.4c@3.0 1,000FSB 250 2,5,2,2 5:4 (part of Goku's sig)
I was always wondering what the 2,5,2,2 stuff meant, the ratio(5:4) and that 250 number means.
If I can get the mobo to 133 MHz, then I'll be good, but I dont really think a Celeron could handle that kinda torture. my RAM can take it (I looked it up at their website), and I'd be at 3059 MHz if I could get the FSB to a mere 133 *drool*
EDIT:
2.4c@3.0 1,000FSB 250 2,5,2,2 5:4 (part of Goku's sig)
I was always wondering what the 2,5,2,2 stuff meant, the ratio(5:4) and that 250 number means.
I.... am amazed..... My processor's runnin at 3070.0 MHz O.o not bad for a Celeron 2.3 GHz... huh? I still cant believe it, I'm gonna use 3D Mark 03 to see if it truly is clocked that high.
EDIT:
Damn, it keeps rebootin on me when I clocked it that high, anyone gimme a solution? (My memory is compaitable with 133 MHz FSB, it wont be that) only thing I can think of is the voltage. The temp is not the problem either, it only got to 46 degrees and it still rebooted, but when I ran a CPU-heat-up program, it got to 55 degrees before I stopped it (never rebooted). Anyone help me with increasin the voltage on an Intel 82845 G/GL/GE/PE/GV chipset?
EDIT2:
Still waitin on someone to help me out with the 3 GHz prob. but until then can someone help me out with the 2.8 GHz prob? (No sound) Might as well fix it now before I go onto 3 GHz. Basically anything over 2555 MHz on this thing makes the sound go p00f. Winamp doesnt work at all, comes up with an error sayin the drivers are corrupt (only at 2556 MHz +) someone help?
EDIT:
Damn, it keeps rebootin on me when I clocked it that high, anyone gimme a solution? (My memory is compaitable with 133 MHz FSB, it wont be that) only thing I can think of is the voltage. The temp is not the problem either, it only got to 46 degrees and it still rebooted, but when I ran a CPU-heat-up program, it got to 55 degrees before I stopped it (never rebooted). Anyone help me with increasin the voltage on an Intel 82845 G/GL/GE/PE/GV chipset?
EDIT2:
Still waitin on someone to help me out with the 3 GHz prob. but until then can someone help me out with the 2.8 GHz prob? (No sound) Might as well fix it now before I go onto 3 GHz. Basically anything over 2555 MHz on this thing makes the sound go p00f. Winamp doesnt work at all, comes up with an error sayin the drivers are corrupt (only at 2556 MHz +) someone help?
alright alright, heres my hardware info from 3DMark '03:
someone help me o/c that please?
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Motherboard Info
Manufacturer Intel Corporation
Model D845GERG3
Version AAC29595-101
BIOS Vendor Intel Corp.
BIOS Version GATEWA - 4000301
BIOS Release Date 01/04/03
BIOS Properties Plug and Play, Flash, AGP
AGP
Revision 2.0
Rate 1x, 2x, 4x (4x enabled)
Available Rate 0x00000007
Selected Rate 0x00000004
Aperture Size 64 MB
Sideband Addressing supported (enabled)
Fast Write supported (enabled)
Manufacturer Intel Corporation
Model D845GERG3
Version AAC29595-101
BIOS Vendor Intel Corp.
BIOS Version GATEWA - 4000301
BIOS Release Date 01/04/03
BIOS Properties Plug and Play, Flash, AGP
AGP
Revision 2.0
Rate 1x, 2x, 4x (4x enabled)
Available Rate 0x00000007
Selected Rate 0x00000004
Aperture Size 64 MB
Sideband Addressing supported (enabled)
Fast Write supported (enabled)
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Hard Disk Drive 1/2
Name Maxtor 32049H2
Manufacturer (Standard disk drives)
Capacity 19.08 GB
Model Maxtor 32049H2
Interface Type IDE
Drive Letters D:
Hard Disk Drive 2/2
Name WDC WD800BB-53DKA0
Manufacturer (Standard disk drives)
Capacity 74.53 GB
Model WDC WD800BB-53DKA0
Interface Type IDE
Drive Letters C:
Name Maxtor 32049H2
Manufacturer (Standard disk drives)
Capacity 19.08 GB
Model Maxtor 32049H2
Interface Type IDE
Drive Letters D:
Hard Disk Drive 2/2
Name WDC WD800BB-53DKA0
Manufacturer (Standard disk drives)
Capacity 74.53 GB
Model WDC WD800BB-53DKA0
Interface Type IDE
Drive Letters C:
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Memory Slot 1/2
Installed Enabled Size 256 MB
Form Factor DIMM
Frequency 266.0 MHz (EDIT: IF this is its max speed, I cant wait to see it o/c'ed like that: 6118 MHz CPU clock *drool*. I'm not countin on it tho)
Slot J6G1
Manufacturer <unknown>
Type Details
Enabled Size 256 MB
Total Bit Width 64 b
Data Bit Width 0 b
Installed Enabled Size 256 MB
Form Factor DIMM
Frequency 266.0 MHz (EDIT: IF this is its max speed, I cant wait to see it o/c'ed like that: 6118 MHz CPU clock *drool*. I'm not countin on it tho)
Slot J6G1
Manufacturer <unknown>
Type Details
Enabled Size 256 MB
Total Bit Width 64 b
Data Bit Width 0 b
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Display Device 1/1
NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 Driver 6.1.7.6
Description NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200
Manufacturer NVIDIA
Total Local Video Memory 128 MB
Total Local Texture Memory 128 MB
Total AGP Memory 62 MB
Driver File nv4_disp.dll
Driver Version 6.1.7.6
Driver Date 7-12-2004
Driver WHQL Certified true
Max Texture Width 4096 px
Max Texture Height 4096 px
Max User Clipping Planes 6
Max Active Hardware Lights 8
Max Texture Blending Stages 8
Fixed Function Textures In Single Pass 8
Vertex Shader Version 2.0
Pixel Shader Version 2.0
Max Vertex Blend Matrices 0
Max Texture Coordinates 8
VGA Memory Clock 391.5 MHz
VGA Core Clock 310.5 MHz
PCI
Name NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200
Vendor ID 0x10de
Device ID 0x0322
SubSystem ID 0x00000000
Revision ID 0xa1
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Texture Formats
32-bit ARGB [8888]
32-bit RGB [888]
16-bit RGB [565]
16-bit RGB [555]
16-bit ARGB [1555]
16-bit ARGB [4444]
8-bit YUV [800]
16-bit AYUV [8800]
FourCC [DXT1]
FourCC [DXT2]
FourCC [DXT3]
FourCC [DXT4]
FourCC [DXT5]
Capabilities
AGP Texturing, Hardware Transform and Lighting, Positional Lights, Subpixel Accurate Rasterizing, Stencil Buffers, Range Fog, Table Fog, Vertex Fog, W-Fog, Specular Gouraud Shading, Anisotropic Filtering, Bilinear Filtering, Point Sampling, Trilinear Filtering, Additive Texture Blending, Dot3 Texture Blending, Multiplicative Texture Blending, Subtractive Texture Blending, Environmental Bump Mapping, Environmental Bump Mapping With Luminance, Cube Mapping, Factor Alpha Blending, Vertex Alpha Blending, Texture Alpha Blending, Texture Clamping, Texture Mirroring, Texture Wrapping, Guard Band Support, Mipmap LOD Bias Adjustment, Projected Textures, Volume Textures, Point Primitive Support, Full-Screen Anti-Aliasing, DXT Compressed Textures, Two Sided Stencil Test, Mipmapped Volume Textures, Mipmapped Cube Textures, Texture Border Color, Spherical Mapping, Automatic Mipmap Generation, Hardware Rasterization, Shading, Transform and Lighting, Scissor Test, Legacy Depth Bias
NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 Driver 6.1.7.6
Description NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200
Manufacturer NVIDIA
Total Local Video Memory 128 MB
Total Local Texture Memory 128 MB
Total AGP Memory 62 MB
Driver File nv4_disp.dll
Driver Version 6.1.7.6
Driver Date 7-12-2004
Driver WHQL Certified true
Max Texture Width 4096 px
Max Texture Height 4096 px
Max User Clipping Planes 6
Max Active Hardware Lights 8
Max Texture Blending Stages 8
Fixed Function Textures In Single Pass 8
Vertex Shader Version 2.0
Pixel Shader Version 2.0
Max Vertex Blend Matrices 0
Max Texture Coordinates 8
VGA Memory Clock 391.5 MHz
VGA Core Clock 310.5 MHz
PCI
Name NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200
Vendor ID 0x10de
Device ID 0x0322
SubSystem ID 0x00000000
Revision ID 0xa1
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Texture Formats
32-bit ARGB [8888]
32-bit RGB [888]
16-bit RGB [565]
16-bit RGB [555]
16-bit ARGB [1555]
16-bit ARGB [4444]
8-bit YUV [800]
16-bit AYUV [8800]
FourCC [DXT1]
FourCC [DXT2]
FourCC [DXT3]
FourCC [DXT4]
FourCC [DXT5]
Capabilities
AGP Texturing, Hardware Transform and Lighting, Positional Lights, Subpixel Accurate Rasterizing, Stencil Buffers, Range Fog, Table Fog, Vertex Fog, W-Fog, Specular Gouraud Shading, Anisotropic Filtering, Bilinear Filtering, Point Sampling, Trilinear Filtering, Additive Texture Blending, Dot3 Texture Blending, Multiplicative Texture Blending, Subtractive Texture Blending, Environmental Bump Mapping, Environmental Bump Mapping With Luminance, Cube Mapping, Factor Alpha Blending, Vertex Alpha Blending, Texture Alpha Blending, Texture Clamping, Texture Mirroring, Texture Wrapping, Guard Band Support, Mipmap LOD Bias Adjustment, Projected Textures, Volume Textures, Point Primitive Support, Full-Screen Anti-Aliasing, DXT Compressed Textures, Two Sided Stencil Test, Mipmapped Volume Textures, Mipmapped Cube Textures, Texture Border Color, Spherical Mapping, Automatic Mipmap Generation, Hardware Rasterization, Shading, Transform and Lighting, Scissor Test, Legacy Depth Bias
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CPU 1/1
Intel® Celeron® CPU 2.30GHz 2.6 GHz
Manufacturer Intel
Family Intel® Celeron® CPU 2.30GHz
Internal Clock 2.6 GHz
Internal Clock Maximum 2.6 GHz
External Clock 100.0 MHz (EDIT:if this is the FSB then it's actually 111 MHz)
Socket Designation J2E1
Type Central
HyperThreadingTechnology Available - Disabled
Capabilities MMX, CMov, RDTSC, SSE, SSE2
Version Intel® Celeron® CPU 2.30GHz
Caches
Level 1 8 KB
Level 2 128 KB
EDIT: the CPU multiplier is 23, the FSB is just a little over 111 MHz, gettin me over 2553 MHz
Intel® Celeron® CPU 2.30GHz 2.6 GHz
Manufacturer Intel
Family Intel® Celeron® CPU 2.30GHz
Internal Clock 2.6 GHz
Internal Clock Maximum 2.6 GHz
External Clock 100.0 MHz (EDIT:if this is the FSB then it's actually 111 MHz)
Socket Designation J2E1
Type Central
HyperThreadingTechnology Available - Disabled
Capabilities MMX, CMov, RDTSC, SSE, SSE2
Version Intel® Celeron® CPU 2.30GHz
Caches
Level 1 8 KB
Level 2 128 KB
EDIT: the CPU multiplier is 23, the FSB is just a little over 111 MHz, gettin me over 2553 MHz
someone help me o/c that please?
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Intel® Celeron® CPU 2.30GHz 2.6 GHz
not bad for a gateway.
QUOTE(pappy177 @ Jul 29 2004, 10:01 AM)
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Intel® Celeron® CPU 2.30GHz 2.6 GHz
not bad for a gateway.
yeah, I can get it up to 2.8 GHz but it corrupts the sound drivers and I lose sound(doesnt corrupt them permanently, if I bring it back down to 2.6 GHz I get sound back), my guess is that the data is running through the CPU a little faster than it can read the data, because if I run winamp at 2.8 GHz it says my sound drivers are corrupt and I should reinstall them (which I'm not gonna do cuz it wont make any diff)
here's the challenge: Get this beast up to 133 MHz FSB (or a CPU speed of 3.0 GHz) by finding a way to make it stable.
Standing in your way: A small overheat problem (it will probably only get to 55 degrees celcius tops), a 2 minute reboot countdown (only at 3.0 GHz), and sound loss
if you can help, please do
QUOTE(mew905 @ Jul 24 2004, 12:05 AM) 
uhhh... I wanna O/C this thing... but theres a few problems: There's no jumpers, The BIOS locked the settings, theres none of those little series of switches (cant remember what they're called, they do the same thing as jumpers) and I dont wanna be stuck with a crappy 2.4 GHz processor... I've already used CPUFSB and it could only get it up to 2.402 GHz (wow... a whole 102 MHz faster... stock its a Celeron 2.3 GHz)
Anybody got any suggestions?
Anybody got any suggestions?
"Stuck with a crappy 2.4GHz PROCESSOR"???? You can't mean that. I OC my 1800MHz to 1917MHz and run it that way 24/7 and am very happy with it...I guess it's like having either a Mustang or a Mustang GT; but the GT is WAY more expensive and uses a LOT more gas...whats the point? I overclock my Mustang with 91 octane fuel and get over 200 Horsepower out of it, which I'm also happy with. I don't see the highway patrol handing out citations for "Baddest Car Ever" to GT's...LOL...
oh hell is this old... I managed to overclock it stable to 3.0GHz, 3.2GHz peak but again lose sound, no volt mods. I managed to get it to run at 12GHz for a grand total of a half second before it locked up. I could probably OC higher now that I have PC3200 RAM.
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