burntkat
Jun 18 2004, 08:41 AM
folks-
I am considering converting the coil-sprung front end of my 90 XJ to leaf springs.
Why? 'cuz it's MUCH easier to bolt a Dana 44 up to the front end then, and I have everything I need to make it work except for the axle, which I have a line on one for $100 from an 87 Wagoneer.
I also have the skills- I am pretty damn good with a welder if I do say so myself. Especially for someone with no formal training.
of course, we all know leafs ride a bit harsher than coils.
Thing is, it's a lot more fab work to make the brackets to bolt in the 44 with coils. Of course I could go with a 76-77 Early Bronco and convert to radius arms up front- this is pretty much a bolt-on operation. Problem is, they're hard to find.
Decisions, decisions-- whatta ya think, Eric, Mongo, other folks?
burntkat
Jun 20 2004, 10:28 PM
.. don't everyone rush to talk at once, now...
bull
Jun 21 2004, 12:59 AM
Go for the low $ approach, them you have extra to get more toys.
burntkat
Jun 21 2004, 01:08 AM
yeah that's kinda what I'm leaning toward, actually.
Just going to have to wait a bit. I'll go ahead and buy the axle, but the work itself will take me off the road for a bit.
That is one advantage of the coil setup-- I can bolt the new axle in in a day. However, I don't think that's worth an extra grand or more to do the job.
burntkat
Jun 22 2004, 06:54 AM
well, hell.
The knucklehead who told me he'd keep the axle for me, sold it.
At least he's giving me the wheels from that Wagoneer, so that saves a good bit.
Will keep my eyes out for a 77 Bronco 44. This has the coil seats 1" wider than the XJ axle- close enough to fudge it. I'll cut off the c-bracket and weld on my own heavy-duty control arm mounts, install Chevy spindles and FSJ outers, and call it done.
Probably be able to do it all for $500 or so. Not too bad.
burntkat
Jun 28 2004, 10:25 PM
happened to go by the local Advanced near my work today and got to talking with a friend.
Turns out he's a damn genius when it comes to designing 4-links. He's been building them for years for his custom trucks-- let me drive his lowrider and the damn thing drove smoother than many luxo-barges 've driven.
So now it's looking like I might be going coil REAR as well..
burntkat
Jun 28 2004, 10:26 PM
alright-- which one'ya wise guys suggested investing in Moog?
Mongo
Jul 26 2004, 05:45 PM
Go for the leaf springs, dude. You'll get even more flex outta that beast!
Mister 4x4
Jul 26 2004, 07:29 PM
QUOTE(Mongo @ Jul 26 2004, 05:45 PM)
Go for the leaf springs, dude. You'll get even more flex outta that beast!
It's a toss-up anymore on that.
Even Matt's removed his cool quarter-elliptical buggy-spring set up out of Big Yellah for a 4-link and coils.
burntkat
Jul 26 2004, 07:36 PM
I'm still kinda on the fence. I saw a fellow on POR and JU <AZAshman, as I recall> who did the leaf conversion with 60's underneath running 38s, and he went through Upper Heldorado like it was nothing. Also, apparently, it makes a super nice DD onroad-- he drove it to the trail. :shrug:
more than likely, when it comes time to go to D44s, I'll go leafs. As it is-- I'm trying to save as much cash as possible just to get me through to tax refund time- all of which will go in a slush fund for home repair, should the worst happen. :knock wood:
burntkat
Nov 27 2004, 05:42 PM
WEll, after comparing pros and cons on the patented
Shade Tree Howler Monkey scale, I find that fabbing and aligning all the brackets for the coil setup on a 44 is about a 5-Banana job <should only be attempted by a professional orangutan>, where going to leafs is more like a 2-Banana job <Moderately difficult- knowledge of tools and their uses required>. It would only be a 1-Banana job <almost the same amount of skill as required to peel a banana> if I didn't have to weld new spring perches atop the axle.
Come to think of it-- I could avoid that by going for a 4" lift YJ spring and staying with springunders. Nah.... too rough.
Of course I could always shell out the $400 for the Rubicon Express coilspring bracket kit, and move the job to a difficult 3-Banana task, but I'm disinclined to drop that much on brackets. The $400 and time I save will be better spent regearing and locking the front axle....
burntkat
Dec 5 2004, 12:19 AM
picked up the axle today. Hope to begin fabricatiing the brackets to mount the leafs when I get back from Germany.....
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