hi solved it i got the firmware for my player the same one in the pic in the first post read part for this eamail i sent to a company i have emailin and replying helping them with surport
after searching and searching a fould this site for mp4 utility software 3.06 and firmware for another player wich simed to be the same firmware, i download it and did the firmware update, seemed not to work, anyway i left it turned off of about 10min's when i was installing mp3 player utillity software 3.06 it finished installing and i turned the power switch on, on the mp4 player conected it to the computer and hold the player buton for about 10secs . the computer reconised it like before and i left it for about 5 mins and the screen was light horay it was working again.
but the firmware i installed was ment for a difrent player and a newer version the menu and the foward next button was swaped around and it did not have a screen saver option anymore but it has a ebook icon in the menu and hold , also to put the vol up up tap the vol button and use the menu buton. holding the vol button put the player on hold and holding th vol button again takes it off hold.
and now i have considered that the memory chip is balled right up.
anyway the website is
http://www.auhe30.dsl.pipex.com/utility.htm it works there is no viruses and the new firmware version seems to be more stable apart form the changes in i buttons
the new utillity software 3.06 is the best so far video and sound is in syink.
i hope that was some help to over people with wrong firmware updates.
also this pic is what the mp4 player firmware was ment for
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SMALLEST-512MB-PORTA...bayphotohostingso if it works for my player it should work for many players
that look like the pic it the first post and the link above.
i hope this help someone if not all
plz reply if it solves your problem