GoKu
Nov 16 2002, 06:54 PM
To all you beer drinkers.. this goes out to you
Reel Big Fish - Beer
bull
Nov 16 2002, 07:31 PM
What are you talkin' bout??
Jason
Nov 16 2002, 07:37 PM

I was thinking the same.
GoKu
Nov 16 2002, 07:38 PM
bull
Nov 16 2002, 07:41 PM
QUOTE
To all you beer drinkers.. this goes out to you
Reel Big Fish - Beer
What do you mean

??
reel big fish - Beer??
reel big fish - reel big fish smell. :P
GoKu
Nov 16 2002, 08:09 PM
Reel big fish, is a band, the name of the song, is beer... you noobies
bull
Nov 16 2002, 08:52 PM

Obviously a big hit??
Treytor
Nov 16 2002, 09:04 PM
lol
GoKu
Nov 16 2002, 09:53 PM
Wouldnt expect u uptights to have heared it, sid might of tho. Hes the only one who listens to that music sides me. I think?
adhesive
Nov 17 2002, 03:41 AM
they suck donkey bollocks
BigO
Nov 17 2002, 07:22 AM
As usual Goku none of the normal peeps here have any idea what the hell your talkin about.
bull
Nov 17 2002, 10:18 AM
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they suck donkey bollocks
I could not have said it any better myself!!
GoKu
Nov 17 2002, 04:34 PM
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Wouldnt expect u uptights to have heared it, sid might of tho. Hes the only one who listens to that music sides me. I think?
I stay with my original theory.
adhesive
Nov 17 2002, 04:55 PM
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QUOTE
Wouldnt expect u uptights to have heared it, sid might of tho. Hes the only one who listens to that music sides me. I think?
I stay with my original theory.
your theory is flawed. i've heard it...
GoKu
Nov 17 2002, 04:59 PM
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Hes the only one who listens to that music sides me. I think?
Miss the 'I think?' part?
Anonymous
Nov 19 2002, 04:12 AM
Lay off poor Goku, just because you like f-ing beatles, doesn't mean ya gotta trash modern music, god...
bull
Nov 19 2002, 04:58 AM
I don't like the beetles. :P
There is some very good "modern" music and some pretty bad "modern" music. That is MY opinion and my opinion only. If you don't want comments, why the hell post it???
Sorry I don't like the music that you do, but I am sure if I posted some of the music I like, the same would happen.
adhesive
Nov 19 2002, 07:50 AM
nothing said about the Beatles, but thrashing them like that is only making you look an arse Valo. They have played an important part in almost all modern musics history.
that said, it might be time to drop this subject since it's all about personal taste. nothing logic or scientific tests will give you an absolute answer to.
a pretty pointless discussion in other words
GoKu
Nov 19 2002, 02:57 PM
Yes we should, but first, thnx Valo, and second, didnt you do the same things about my music gluey? And your telling him not to about the beatles. I dont care how important they were, I dont know any modern bands that sound like em, go figure. Everything revolves around them tho. Yes they were good for there time, but people who think the beetles shaped our music, i highly disagree.
ldonyo
Nov 19 2002, 05:49 PM
In my opinion, the way the Beatles influenced modern music has more to do with the way they were discovered and promoted than with the actual music itself. Had the Beatles not been discovered and promoted, there may have never been a British invasion. Had there never been a British invasion, the music you listen to now would not exist in its present form.
Although their music is very good from a technical standpoint, the technology of the time was woefully inadequate to capture that complexity. The only way you can get it is to pick up a song book and look at the music on paper. Some very subtle stuff in there that was never picked up by the recording equipment of their day.
adhesive
Nov 19 2002, 06:28 PM
i didn't thrash modern music Goku. i thrashed Reel Big Fish.
i didn't say anything about anyones music taste. i just dont happen to like Reel Big Fish
egarrard
Nov 28 2002, 02:50 AM
QUOTE
Although their music is very good from a technical standpoint, the technology of the time was woefully inadequate tocapture that complexity. The only way you can get it is to pick up a song book and look at the music on paper. Some very subtle stuff in there that was never picked up by the recording equipment of their day.
Care to elaborate on that? I've been an audio engineer for close to 30 years and would like to know what I've been missing.
Anonymous
Nov 28 2002, 07:48 PM
No f-ing kidding, double standard around here.
And gluey, f**k off.
odie
Nov 28 2002, 08:00 PM
now now temper temper... and watch the language!
adhesive
Nov 28 2002, 08:05 PM
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And gluey, f**k off.
oh. i suddenly feel compelled to agree with you on all points now.
Jason
Nov 28 2002, 08:09 PM
What is your problem Valo ? you were fine at MR, then you changed your name and become weird.
You had a personality transplant ?
AceHigh
Nov 28 2002, 08:10 PM
I'm not gonna lock this post because we have backed off a bit. I do ask that we keep things civil. No need for name calling. I will let the peeps sort this one out.
bull
Nov 29 2002, 01:28 AM
Damn, getting that angry over musical taste. If someone doesn't agree with you on something that actually matters, do you shoot them in the knee caps??
Music is one thing that not alot of people will agree on.
QUOTE
No f-ing kidding, double standard around here.
And gluey, f**k off.
That is a little ridiculous. Please define "double standard". Not agreeing on personal taste is not a double standard.
Please lighten-up. As Mick once put it so elequantly:
"I know, it's only rock and roll, but I like it, like it, yes I do" :wink:
odie
Nov 29 2002, 07:04 AM
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What is your problem Valo ? you were fine at MR, then you changed your name and become weird.
You had a personality transplant ?
LOL!..
Got Korn?
ldonyo
Nov 29 2002, 07:33 PM
QUOTE
QUOTE
Although their music is very good from a technical standpoint, the technology of the time was woefully inadequate tocapture that complexity. The only way you can get it is to pick up a song book and look at the music on paper. Some very subtle stuff in there that was never picked up by the recording equipment of their day.
Care to elaborate on that? I've been an audio engineer for close to 30 years and would like to know what I've been missing.
From what I understand, the analog equipment used in the '60's is not as sensitive as the digital equipment used for the last 10 - 15 years. Think THX and the latest versions of Dolby. Also, playback equipment and the media (vinyl and tape) that was used to sell and play the music, was not as good as it is now.
Therefore, it is my opinion that some more subtle tones may have been lost during the recording and/or playback processes. If you can explain where I am in error, please do so, as I would like to know more about how sound has been recorded over the last three decades.
AceHigh
Nov 29 2002, 07:47 PM
Actually, the music recorded in analog on vinyl (records) is more pure and natural than digital recording. Where digital recording is cleaner, it loses some of the sound subtleties produced in analog recording.
MadCow
Nov 29 2002, 07:49 PM
thats cus digital recorders cut the tops and bottoms off of the sound ways... thus is not as good as analog....
ldonyo
Nov 29 2002, 07:53 PM
Then why do I hear tones on CDs that never came through on records or tapes (reel-to-reel, 8-track, or cassette)? Listening to 'Dark Side of the Moon', for example, on CD is a totally different, and better, to me, acoustic experience than it was on vinyl.
AceHigh
Nov 29 2002, 07:58 PM
Because you have to have a stylus that can handle the frequency range. I don't even think they are made anymore. My Shure cartridge has a fequence responce of 2 - 30,000 Hz. Most cheaper ones are 30 - 20,000.
Jason
Nov 29 2002, 08:02 PM
DJ's still use vinyl because its the most convienient and easiest to get hands on with it whilst playing, they use the Technics 1210's
egarrard
Nov 29 2002, 10:55 PM
That's kind of what I was getting at. The mics, cables, preamps, etc. haven't changed to much extent since digital has been introduced. Digital recording hasn't had the resolution of analog either. It's close now with 24bit/96khz, but what came out originally wasn't. It "sounded" better due to the lack of hiss masking the low-level signal and a lot of high frequency sound. It had it's own artifacts due to the filtering required to remove the aliasing caused by the low sampling rate.
The medium on which the music is recorded may have changed, but the tools by which the sound is captured haven't changed very much. Having said that, though, it's amazing how the price of quality processing equipment has reached new lows with the advances in computers. But good mics are always going to be damned expensive. Good sounding rooms to record and mix in will be too.
(It's really humorous to me how most of the world's "audiophiles" go on about the latest $1000/meter, high-tech cabling, when in the vast majority of studios, the cable from the mic to the preamp is plain old Beldin, or the like. If the source isn't any better than that, how is ultra-expensive, better-made cable going to bring out what's not there?)
AceHigh
Nov 29 2002, 11:05 PM
Ok guys, this has got way off topic, but lets keep it going. Nice discussion. Let's keep it smart.
BigO
Nov 30 2002, 06:52 AM
* BigO pats mods on back for resisting desire to lock post*
Me on the other hand will not hesitate to delete post from peeps that tell other peeps to f**k off. Thats not gonna fly here.
Kingbob
Dec 5 2002, 04:26 PM
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