What is the best AGP video card for the $$ right now.

I can't afford to upgrade mobo, CPU and all...so I get to stick with the older interface, but I wanna be able to play the newer games.

Links with prices are helpful too.

Then again....

For about $400...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814130082

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813131013

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819103244

Anybody need a car wash? Toenails cut?? Anything?

Are you going schizoid on us bullski? You ain't supposed to answer your own questions, brudder. <Only if it's the best answer does it count.>

So you're thinking of going PCI-e, huh? Do you have the SATA hard drives and proper ram to go with it and a 700 watt + to help run that vid card? Those new vid cards suck major juice and if you're getting a new PSU, it might be an idea to stick with the single rail system.

From PC Power and Cooling info on single vs multi rail PSUs:
"With all the hype about multiple 12-volt rails (ads claim that two
rails is better than one, five is better than four, etc.), you?d think
it was a better design. Unfortunately, it?s not!

Here are the facts: A large, single 12-volt rail (without a 240VA limit)
can transfer 100% of the 12-volt output from the PSU to the computer,
while a multi-rail 12-volt design has distribution losses of up to 30%
of the power supply's rating. Those losses occur because power literally
gets "trapped" on under-utilized rails. For example, if the 12-volt rail
that powers the CPU is rated for 17 amps and the CPU only uses 7A, the
remaining 10A is unusable, since it is isolated from the rest of the system.

Since the maximum current from any one 12-volt rail of a multiple-rail
PSU is limited to 20 amps (240VA / 12 volts = 20 amps), PCs with
high-performance components that draw over 20 amps from the same rail
are subject to over-current shutdowns. With power requirements for
multiple processors and graphics cards continuing to grow, the
multiple-rail design, with its 240VA limit per rail, is basically obsolete."

Hmmmm, ok scratch that idea. I would actually just be happy to upgrade the video card and stick with the AGP.

Nice going Bart! I could have got a Pedicure.

And probably enjoyed it too, ya big sissy. LOL. J/K, big guy.

This is the one I currently have in my rig:

http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=...amp;dcaid=15890

I got it at Dell.com, I think it was cheaper but I can't find it there anymore.

firingsquad


newegg


Looks like your choices are few Mr. Bull, I'm not sure this one would do what you want, but it looks pretty good for a hundred bucks after rebate.

Good finds, fellas.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814161225

or

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814102730

Use Omega drivers...ATI only supplys the PCI drivers.

I just upgraded to a 2600pro

I like the looks of that Sapphire card. Nice.

How does it run the current games?

Hmmm, that sapphire does look interesting. Problem is for $200 more I could have a quadcore and go SLi.

I think the GeForce 8600 is getting an AGP counterpart, but I cant remember if I saw one online anywhere. No idea if the 8800's come in AGP at all, but the Radeon HD 3850 and 3870 are absolutely insane bang-for-the-buck. Not the fastest but $200 for a DX10.1 high-end card that rivals the 8800GT is damn good. honestly if you can grab one in AGP, do it, they can even handle Crysis better than the GeForce series so if that's a game you're lookin at, definitely go with the HD3800 series.

The Radeon HD 3850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 AGP 4X/8X

Upgradeing the board would make more dallar sense in the long run.

Definitely better to do an overhaul. Using the AGP bus and/or an older CPU will severely bottleneck a new video card. Not sure what CPU you have but you're far better off getting a dual core (even a cheap one, my Athlon X2 3800 costs about $75 and serves me just fine. And in all honesty PCI express is the way to go, AGP is a dead technology with very limited support now. Similar to HD-DVD, its a proven dead technology, but it will still have some support for a few years, growing scarcer as time goes on. AGP is just about at the end of it's rope.

If you change boards go with intel....moocho faster for the buck right. Got an 4600 X2 oced 2.7, got a low end intel for parents puter... its faster.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819115029
It will smoke a higher end AMD.

Keep in mind that I am an AMD fan...but facts is facts.

Intel did in fact do a good job with the Core 2. However, you have to keep in mind upgrading mobo requires processor AND memory (DDR2), though cheaper, still $$.

I think I am gonna save my pennies and get this...





http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814102730

Nice Bull... I know that will make you happy

A lot of money for a card that will be bottlenecked by your current configuration.

Nice vid card to be sure.

Drools a lil

Tell me more...

Did you pick one out you cheapskate?!?!

My God! The pot calling the kettle black? I never thought I'd see it in my life time, but there it is.

http://4peeps.com/ivb/index.php?s=&sho...st&p=208877


Just saving the $$.

Still curious where my biggest bottleneck is...Biggy??

Hey Bull, wouldn't it be easier to jump to PCI-E? A lotta better performance and cheaper price than an AGP.

Cheaper price for the card... yes... But then add in a new MoBo, new CPU + RAM... then the price swings the other way.

On the other hand, you can look at it as "I am going to *have* to upgrade eventually, so why not just do it now?"

I choose with staying w/ my AGP system for now and just upgraded my card to whatever the fastest AGP card was out at the time. Since AMD pretty much Tanked on the CPU's I am glad I am holding off until something with real results comes out of the AMD stable.

Exactly, if you're going to upgrade eventually, you're going to spend either way sooner or later. Same thing happened to me, I 1st purchased the 7600GT AGP and nearly a month later, I had to upgrade to PCI-E, of course I bought everything, Mobo, Processor and RAM and the 7950GT and am really happy now.

Guys like Bull and I are broke all the time... so we can't afford to do everything in 'one shot' and try to hold on to old technology as long as possible.

It could be worse....we could be "The_Burner" trying to play Doom3 on a C64!

Bwahahahaha. You never fail to make me laugh, Mike.

Amen to that coz. I would love to just do it all, but having 11 and 12 y/o girls are a bit costly.

Your old chipset/cpu sweetcakes.
Match that card (in its pci expess form) with a current intel chipset...night and day brother Bull.
My parents 2.6 intel proc with a lowly 8600 gt shows better detail in Call of Duty 4 than my sli 7950gt oc and plays almost as fast.
Color not as good on theirs though.

( my proc 4600 oc to 2.7)

Relevant words: Number of lanes in the highway and top speed of aforesaid highway.

I got my income tax rebate back. It's a tough decision. Either spend the money and upgrade the old computer or spend the money and upgrade the Dodge Magnum R/T.

I am probably going to invest the money in the car. I really REALLY want a Borla Exhaust and a new Cold Air Intake. I've already dropped $500 on a new set of tires (stupid Continental Tires on the car are slicks at only 20K miles! GARBAGE!) so I might as well just spend the rest on the car.

Save it? HA! Come on now... I am trying to help stimulate the economy! LOL

What engine is in the truck, Coz? 318ci?

Truck? No.

Hearse/Station Wagon type of vehicle. Not sure about the Cubic Inch but it's the 5.7L V-8 HEMI.

Talk about 'hi-jacking' poor Bull's Video Card thread! LOL

Sorry, you traded in your truck for this vehicle a while ago. It was a Durango I believe as we had a discussioin about the old verses new style of the Durangos and we both preferred the old style.
5.7L = 344ci engine. That has got to have a little zip to it.

A little zip to it, yes.... and a little gas mileage to it as well! LoL

Yup, the old Durangos were far superior looking to the new Durango's.

Now, back to the original thread....

Bull, you purchase it yet?!? LoL

After reading what Biggy said and researching...I will at least have to upgrade to a dual core processor to make it worth while. So...I am gonna by a new medical bag for my truck and just deal with it for now.

Oh? You don't even have a Dual Core CPU? Wow man.......

Well, I did wonder why I got such a good deal of the 4000+.