mmmmmm Honda.... Now I can buy what I really wanna buy

a honda element

yep... nice and affordable.... nice room in it too for a fatty like me

my future baby. even if it takes a robbery

Hm.. Escalade for me

what do u do for a living goku? last time i checked, escalades (poor build quality) price was very very high... maybe with a 30 year mortgage you could afford one but you still could not afford the fuel bills

I would say a robbery is fair

yum.

i have no desire for an SUV.

I would take a Hummer but not a SUV or VAN.


or

H1 Hummers are Military and H2 Hummers ARE suv's

that honda civic electric hybrid is awefull sweet, but I need a flexible interior that is goof-proof because of the kid and hauling lots of bulky stuff.

The Honda Element is number one in my book.. and it drives VERY well, took one for a long test drive because when I get back to work, we are going to need a second vehicle, and we need room and versatiltiy

My main concern is Quality and Price. I HATE american cars and trucks... because of horrible build quality. Are you going to pay top dollar for a car/truck/suv that rattles and makes horrible noises over mildly deformed pavement when you can have a quiet comfortable ride for the same or less money? Do you want a vehicle that likes to be maintained a lot or one that hardly EVER needs anyting but oil changes and fuel?

look at the reliability ratings of you favorite vehicles at places like Consumer Reports.... Let's see, Toyota and Honda are always right there at the top.

I am not shelling out my hard earned cash for poor qualtiy vehicles... unless I work for the big 3 directly and get huge discounts to do so.... it just makes no financial sense.

If GM/Ford/Chrysler pays my college tutition and my salary, then I will buy their products... but, last time I checked, they never contributed to my salary of benefits for many years now... no, they are more interested in building cars and trucks in China.

I'm still partial to a navy blue VW Jetta.. my car

I have to agree Japanese cars are built better than American ones and more reliable too.

it's been proven over and over in tests. not only are they the most reliable cars you can ever get for your money, cars from the east are also some of the worlds safest cars to drive around in. the only competitors are the germans with their mercedes and porsche, which quite frankly are a little pricey for the ordinary man.

brands like toyota even make great scores on the used marked, which is why i'm aiming for a mid-nighties corolla myself. have droven an older version till now, but can't get any more ladies with this one

mmmm..nah.
I like this one.

nissan 350Z....man i would love one of these

Out of all the choices listed, I would have to agree with Nfinitex, the Skyline GT-R is one helluva sweet ride.

The Honda Element looks like someone took a toaster and added 2 doors to it. Got to be the ugliest thing out on the road today.

all those jap and german cars are ok but it takes an american to build a car you can strech out in with your best girl

you obviously have not looked into that honda i posted.... you can fold all seats into a double bed.. or remove the rear seats, hang them along the sides, and have a LARGE area to put a air matress or a sleeping bag.

hehehe until your window regulators shit and your engine bursts into flames because of the igintion coils... remeber, I was privy to ALL inside VW/Audi reliability.....

j/j but the jetta's are built in mexico, unless you get the GLI or GLX, so the build quality was crappy.. the cars make all kinds of noise on the interior. I know, I have had 4 brand new ones since working there.

and coz, this car appeals to younger peeps who are on the go... not sports car freaks.

it is not about going fast, but going places.... comfortably and with lots of your stuff.

lets see you pile your camping equipment and tow 1500 pounds with that sports car....... its all about what you want in a vehicle. You like sports cars, I like utility I can afford.

I took that quote above from here http://www.forbes.com/2003/01/06/cx_mf_0106test.html

look peeps, I just LOVE this car.... I don't care who buys one! i am NOT selling them... OK?

Just that, I actually like it.... and with a messy wife and 3 yr old who like to eat in the car and camp, well, I like it a LOT.

Notice how you can hang the rear seats along the insides of the car? Also notice the Rubber floor (No more floor mats!).. Dent resistant body panels.... and the waterproof stain resistant seats! all starting at 16,100 USD...

the EX model I had quoted is 19,400 and that is a super bargain from what I have been looking at... believe me, I loaded it up!

that is the stuff that really gets my attention, not the homely outside... although, I find the looks very pleasing while many dont like them.

Form follows function, and function is beauty to me.

One of my favourite Jap cars along with:

Honda Civic Type R

Mitsubishi Evolution 7

Toyota Supra 3 litre twin turbo

Subaru Impreza

It's in KPH but you get the idea.


Roughly 200MPH on the speedometer
fun fun fun@!

(skyline gtr)

A skyline obviously

I <3 my Nissan, even though it isn't a Skyline

Mitsu Evo 7's are wicked sick too:)

Not only is it a Skyline, but it's also from the Nismo division

The ever popular Evo 7

Another favourite.

Look in to development cars by Blitz, HKS, Top Secret etc some stunning Skylines and damn fast.

speed aint what I want gents..... i only can really drive 70 mph on the highway....

for high speed reckless fun and AWESOME crashes that dont hurt, I use Burnout and Burnout 2 (very soon) on my gamecube!

20 bucks for the first one (and 50 for burnout 2) is way cheaper than your sports sedans, and I can drive as fast and furious as I want without going to jail.

I know, I was replying to nfinitefx_

I don't care if the friggin car will haul my wife, 3 kids and a horse in it. It's still fugly!

That honda Element is definetly a case of "function follows form", although they could have "prettied" it up a little. Jessh. It looks like a cross between a toaster/refrigerator and one of those pug dogs. Ya know, the stupid looking dogs that look like they ran full speed into a wall and caused it's face to become all smashed in?

I can think of a few cars that are similar to your Element but, actually look nice;
* The PT Cruiser can carry almost as many people as your Honda Element, has as many folding seats, etc,etc, and still looks decent.
* The HUMVEE - 'nough said
* Jeep Liberty

To each his own, if you like the looks of the car, then get yourself to a eye doctor. Seriously, I just can't see, from any angle, how the look of that car is attractive.

the pt cruiser is a neon chassis.... chrysler products.... I am wary of them....

the liberty is way too expensive and gets horrid gas mileage, but I am considering it if they give me a 0% 60 month deal

they do appear to be well built as well and i do appreciate the full time 4WD of the Jeep.

Bottom line is Quality followed very closely by MONEY. The Element is far more configurable than the Jeep as well, but, like I said, if they give me a better deal at a lower price, I'll take it.

I agree the Element is not a very good looking vehicle.
However it is not designed for top performance, it's aimed at people who are into going places a lot and taking a lot of stuff with them. I wish they could have made it look a little nicer though.

As far as, "high speed reckless fun and AWESOME crashes", goes, I really wouldn't do any street racing. "Fast and Furious" street racer types have ruined the whole image of racing.

RACING ON THE OPEN STREETS IS ILLEGAL.
not only is it illegal,
IT'S DANGEROUS.

Real racers will take it to the track, ricers take it to the mall parking lot and sit.

yes... i just do furious racing in video games dude.... right on

If I had my choice it would be a 15 year old Corvette

'88 Callaway to be precise :wink:

Imagine all the Ricers you could shake off the road just starting this baby up.

15 years later and still the fastest production street car in the world

I see our man Troll knows a little about cars as well as computers..... good choice.

As far as chrysler vs Honda, well take it from an old wrench..... if you go to a chrysler dealer and look at their warrenty shelves youll see that there full, Honda dealer youll see damn few parts waiting to go back to warranty. Bottom line- Honda makes a far superior product. Just bought my 2nd one for my daughter.

PS- Owned a chrysler mini van, last american car Ill own. What a piece of shit, was constantly working on it.

A-MEN Again BigO, my american cars were always too busy rattling off all their parts. The last one I had nickle and dimed me 200 bucks a crack for the last 4 years.... when it was 5 yrs old, it cost me 2000 in repairs, and kept 200'ing me to death.

I am done with american cars unless they are given to me REALLY REALLY cheap and the auto company gives me free auto insurance and FREE loaner cars for all the weeks it will be in the shop.

Well my 80 thousand mile ford merc has had not 1 problem other than 1 set of brakes , the required timeing belt at 60,and oil + filters.
It does not use a drop of oil and runs great!!

(course it is built by nessan)

No matter what brand, people who drive sensibly and do regular maintenance on their cars will get good use from it, problem is that the lemons are a lot more common in American made cars, When you pay a guy 20 to 30 dallars an hour with no skills to bolt on the same part all day its hard to make a car thats put together well and is still affordable..... did I say Ford.... Im gonna puke.

I just run trucks and there is no overseas pickup that will do what my 3/4 ton ford heavy duty will do. My average delivery is over 3000 lb, thats a ton and a half and this sucker doesn't even grunt. Sure i have put some money in it but there is 95k miles on the clock and I expect to get 100k more. I am not necessarly a Ford fan beliving in anything that will get the job done but I am pretty happy with this one and plan to get another.

I was unaware that Nissan built parts for ford. I know Mazda did build parts for the Ford Probe, but not Nissan that I know about.
Infinity, built by Nissan(pop the hood of an Infinity, see a Nissan engine:), is operated by Nissan.

Just like Acura is luxary Honda, eg, Euro Accord = Acura RSX(I Think).

As far as chrysler/plymouth...
I hate them.
My grandpa used to have a 91 Sundance, crappiest thing ever. Hardly any pickup when you gave it some gas. Worst yet, it blew a head gasket at only 60,000 miles. 60,000.....

My 95 Nissan Altima has 166,000 miles on it and has not blown 1 head gasket. Mind you after I wrecked it, this is to be expected after a wreck, I had to get a new oil pump. After running into someone at 55 though, and totaling their Buick, you would expect a lot more

ford owns around 55% of Mazda I believe,,, amoung others

Well Steve in the exact range between 3/4 to 1 ton pickups there is not a great deal of foreign trucks made available to us here, but your statement holds little water in real world.

I don't care about speed or aesthetics. I'll stick with my good ol' '82 Jeep Scrambler.

The Skyline is a bad a$$ car if i had the money id go for it

the Mercury Villager is really a Nissan..... re-branded.

Pappy, I had an '88 Mercury Tracer (Mazda 323) and put over 300,000 miles on it.... only replaced consumables like brakes, tires, oil... never an engine or transmission problem and NO interior noise either... no rattles and squeaks.... not that's a car!

I did have to replace the booster pump for the brakes... and that got expensive cause they had to drop out the engine... which only ever used Mobile One Synth oil and the trannie only had Mobil One Synth trannie fluid, which I had them replace when I bought it.

GT's start at $19,500 imported.

GT-R's start at $39,500 imported:P

"Stop dreaming the life and start living the dream"
Some Skyline importer ad I saw in Sport Compact Car.

Ok, I will be the first to admit the ChryCo "K" Cars from the 80s to the early 90s were horse-crap!

Now, with Mercedes Benz acquiring ChryCo, take a look again.

It really is a different car company. Whew, I am starting to sound like Manny.

IMHumbleO, I don't think there is a US car manufacturer out now that can keep up w/ ChryCo. They are designing, implementing and producing some wonderful cars. From the Chrysler Pacifica, Chrysler Crossfire, Dodge SRT-4, Dodge Hemi pickups, I can go on and on.

Gone are the days of poor quality, shoddy engineering and poor customer support. I have been and always will be a Chrysler fan-atic.

Even when they were producing crap cars like the Sundance / Omni / Verizon, they had a few "sleepers" in the stable. Such as the Shelby Omni GLHS, Shelby Daytona TurboZ, the first pickup truck that was a convertible, etc.etc.

Ok, no more ranting. Or, would the more appropriate comment be: no more manny-ing

I still love ya though.