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the_burner
A fictional story based on the "truth" about global warming: Michael Crichton (who just passed away within the last two weeks at age 66 of cancer,) his book "STATE of FEAR" published in 2004.

Within this book it absolutely hammers ecology alarmists, pseudo science and political agendas w.r.t. Global Warming, greenhouse gasses et al.

He has tons of scientific sources, many bibliographic sources and a lot of URLs so that you may check it out yourself.

The book itself is one heck of a good read also and the logic/arguements contained within are irrefutable and sure opened my eyes as to my own "silly believes" wrt pollution, global warming and other popular ecological bandwagons that are being driven all over hell's half acre.

You were right, Ron. Most of "global warming" is just scare tactics, twisted and misquoted scientific studies/results and outright lies and bullsh*t.

I still believe and the author suggests that we should all conserve, recycle and be as green as is normally possible but beyond that; the environment is going to do what it wants, when it wants.

From book: "Knowledge about every aspect of the environment is astonishingly small." "We are in the midst of a natural warming trend that began about 1850, as we emerged from a four-hundred-year cold spell known as the "little ice age."" "Nobody knows how much of the present warming trend might be a natural phenomenon." "Nobody knows how much of the present warming trend might be man made."

URLs:

Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/
Global Historical Climatology Network maintained at the National Climatic Data Center plus Carbon Dioxide Information and Analysis Center of the Oak Ridge National Laboratory is:
http://cdiac.esd.ornl.gov/ghen/ghen.html
United States Historical Climatology Network (USHCN): http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/resear...shcn/ushcn.html
Good satellite images are from NASA at: http://datasystem.earthkam.ucsd.edu

The biography of his sources is 19 1/3 pages long. So he has done his due diligence. Al Gore: maybe not so much.
AceHigh
We should always try and clean up from ourselves, and not pollute our air water, earth, and air, while being sensible. Global warming is a myth. It's absolutely STUPID for governments to invest $trillions to try to combat something nobody has anything to do with.
burntkat
Global warming is not science
Global warming is not fact.
Global warming is not truth.

Global warming is a RELIGION.

I suggest yall check out "The Last Centurion" by John Ringo as well
bull
QUOTE (burntkat @ Nov 13 2008, 01:21 AM) *
Global warming is not science
Global warming is not fact.
Global warming is not truth.

Global warming is a RELIGION.

I suggest yall check out "The Last Centurion" by John Ringo as well


Ding!!! We have a winner. Global warming is a way for BS companies and BS people to make a buck, and they will ride it for all it's worth. icon_evil.gif
uNtOldPAIN
Kinda like Y2k?
MBF
I thought we assumed Ace was always right...........
the_burner
Y2K was provable because of the place holders for year in the Cobol? programming language. Global warming "due" to pollution, green house gasses, shrinking of the ozone layer/hole.... not so much. cocky.gif
bull
QUOTE (MBF @ Nov 13 2008, 08:58 AM) *
I thought we assumed Ace was always right...........


That goes along with the whole ASS in Assume thing. 285.gif
AceHigh
QUOTE (bull @ Nov 13 2008, 09:22 AM) *
That goes along with the whole ASS in Assume thing. 285.gif


Go sit in the corner and color. icon_arrow.gif
pappy177
Global warming is a fact , it is true , but it is the natural nature of the earth.
If you studied history , and rock formations like in the grand canyon , it has been going on for millions of years. Plus none of us or our children will see it.
we may have sped it up by a FEW years but the fact is it is enivetable , then it will start to cool down over the next thousand years.
It is nature , natural and nothing we do will change it.
Snuffy
QUOTE (burntkat @ Nov 12 2008, 11:21 PM) *
Global warming is not science
Global warming is not fact.
Global warming is not truth.

Global warming is a RELIGION.

I suggest yall check out "The Last Centurion" by John Ringo as well

ditto
burntkat
QUOTE (pappy177 @ Nov 14 2008, 08:17 PM) *
Global warming is a fact , it is true , but it is the natural nature of the earth.
If you studied history , and rock formations like in the grand canyon , it has been going on for millions of years. Plus none of us or our children will see it.
we may have sped it up by a FEW years but the fact is it is enivetable , then it will start to cool down over the next thousand years.
It is nature , natural and nothing we do will change it.


no sir, I'm sorry, global WARMING is not true.

Global temps are actually lowering over the past several decades.

Strangely enough, this falls in line with a cooling trend in the sun's output.

Gee, you mean the sun, which makes climate possible in the first place, might actually drive the climate? GEE, YA THINK??

Global climate change is the new mantra. Climates change. It's.What.They.Do!
burntkat
QUOTE (Snuffy @ Nov 15 2008, 03:51 AM) *
ditto


Have you read the book, Snuffy?
pappy177
QUOTE (burntkat @ Nov 15 2008, 07:39 PM) *
no sir, I'm sorry, global WARMING is not true.

Global temps are actually lowering over the past several decades.

Strangely enough, this falls in line with a cooling trend in the sun's output.

Gee, you mean the sun, which makes climate possible in the first place, might actually drive the climate? GEE, YA THINK??

Global climate change is the new mantra. Climates change. It's.What.They.Do!


I think you may have missed the intention of my post , what i was trying to imply is that weather changes have been going on for millions of years and there is little we can do to change that fact.
AceHigh
FACT!!!!!!!!!!!
Mister 4x4
The whole Global Warming thing reminds me of a popular saying: "Never underestimate the power of stupid people in numbers."
the_burner
Sheeple and lemmings. My natural inclination is that the more someone/a group tries to loudly convince me what is "true/right" by increased agitation/violence/volume; the less likely it is to be true. An inverse proportion scenario combined with Shakespeare's "Methinks he doth protest too much." ^^^^ And what he said. Mobs, crowds, groups scare the crap out of me (well, okay, almost) because it is usually the loudest peanut brain in the group exhorting them to do HIS dimwitted agenda.
MBF
Ya bunch of Rebels are gonna get us all in trouble! LOL
the_burner
With any luck, yes! Ha ha ha.
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