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AceHigh
It used to tick me off when the Muslim detractors in the Middle East, or the socialist detractors in Europe, Hollywood and others called our President a cowboy, but the more I think about it, the more glad I am that he is.

When I was a kid, cowboys were my heroes.

Well, I mean the ones in the white hats, not the black hats, who were usually the bad guys.

There was Tex Ritter, Tom Mix, Buck Jones, Hopalong Cassidy, the Lone Ranger.....

there was Red Ryder, Gene Autry, Roy Rogers......

then later, there was Marshall Matt Dillon, Hoss & Li'l Joe Cartwright, Paladin, Maverick and others....

Rawhide's Rowdy Yates

What were common attributes of these legendary cowboys?

Here are a few:

1. They were never looking for trouble.

2. But when trouble came, they faced it with courage.

3. They were always on the side of right.

4. They defended good people against bad people.

5. They had high morals.

6. They had good manners.

7. They were honest.

8. They spoke their minds and they spoke the truth, regardless of what people thought or "political correctness," which no one had ever heard of back then.

9. They were a beacon of integrity in the wild, wild West.

10. They were respected. When they walked into a saloon (where they usually drank only sarsaparilla), the place became quiet, and the bad guys kept their distance.

11. If in a gunfight, they could outdraw anyone. If in a fist fight, they could beat up anyone.

12. They always won. They always got their man. In victory, they rode off into the sunset.

Those were the days when there was such a thing as right and wrong, something blurred in our modern world, and denied by many.

Now, as a senior citizen, I still like cowboys..

They represent something good -- something pure that America has been missing.

Ronald Reagan was a cowboy.

I like Ronald Reagan, who was brave, positive, and who gave us hope. He wore a white hat. To the consternation of his liberal critics, he had the courage to call a spade a spade and call the former Soviet Union what it was -- the evil empire. Liberals hated Ronald Reagan.

They also hate President Bush because he distinguishes between good and evil. He calls a spade a spade, and after 9-11 called evil "evil," without mincing any words, to the shock of the liberal establishment. That'swhat cowboys do, you know.

He also told the French to "put their cards on the table" (old West talk), which they did, exposing their cowardice and greed.

The radical Muslims are wrong.*

In the old West, might did not make right.

Right made might.

Cowboys in white hats were always on the side of right, and that was their might.

I am glad my President is a cowboy.

He got his man!

Cowboys do, you know.
Demon
You forgot "The Rifleman"...
BigO
QUOTE(wdoll @ Jan 11 2004, 07:20 AM)
You forgot "The Rifleman"...

And your point is???
Tul
Jeez, what a bunch of nonsense!

How exactly did the french "expose their cowardice and greed"..? By not bending over for Bush when he wanted a war...?
And tell, me what is refusing Kyoto, if not greed? The french accept that it will cost them alot of money and some competitiveness, yet they will give that up for the benefit of the environment...Bush will screw the environment to the last dollar.

As for being right, isn't that a matter of viewpoint? I think most of the world will agree that bush is, generally, in the wrong.
He'll do his worst to bully any country to back up his ill-concieved ideas, in a very un-democratic manner..
I mean, promising aid, trade, or different immigration laws if countries sign up to help him, is a pretty low blow to countries that are really needy....And he doesn't need the help, he just needs to show that he has a 'multi-national coalition'... Very black hat, IMO.
And honesty?? Like, Halliburton honesty?
Well, I could go on and on, but the last sentences..After speaking of 11/9, did he really get his man? Nope, more than 2 years after, OBL is still on the loose.
Demon
QUOTE(BigO @ Jan 11 2004, 08:17 AM)
And your point is???

That I agree but he left one out.

Tul? disgust.gif

It's someone's opinion.
AceHigh
QUOTE(Tul @ Jan 11 2004, 07:37 AM)
As for being right, isn't that a matter of viewpoint? I think most of the world will agree that bush is, generally, in the wrong.

Right. All 63 countries that form the coalition all think he's wrong. icon_rolleyes.gif Come on, which rock were you raised under? France was selling Iraq equipment against the UN sanctions, so they stood to lose billions if we went into Iraq. We did, and now they did (lose billions).
The GazMeister
QUOTE(AceHigh @ Jan 11 2004, 03:34 PM)
QUOTE(Tul @ Jan 11 2004, 07:37 AM)
As for being right, isn't that a matter of viewpoint?  I think most of the world will agree that bush is, generally, in the wrong.

Right. All 63 countries that form the coalition all think he's wrong. icon_rolleyes.gif Come on, which rock were you raised under? France was selling Iraq equipment against the UN sanctions, so they stood to lose billions if we went into Iraq. We did, and now they did (lose billions).

Bingo, nail on head. yes.gif
Tul
I said 'most of the world'. Do you doubt that? I cannot think of a single country in Europe, excepting perhaps the UK, where the majority of the population was for the war. And certainly a much larger majority thinks Bush is a fool. Now head east from here, things will not look better for bush. With the new Monterrey conference, a poll was made showing 87% of south americans have a negative view of Bush. Believe me, I'm right. icon_razz.gif

As for the french selling stuff under sanctions, show me the proof. I've have seen what amounts to evidence that Russia have done so, but not a solid shred on France.
Demon
QUOTE(Tul @ Jan 12 2004, 12:45 PM)
I said 'most of the world'. Do you doubt that? I cannot think of a single country in Europe, excepting perhaps the UK, where the majority of the population was for the war. And certainly a much larger majority thinks Bush is a fool. Now head east from here, things will not look better for bush. With the new Monterrey conference, a poll was made showing 87% of south americans have a negative view of Bush. Believe me, I'm right. icon_razz.gif

As for the french selling stuff under sanctions, show me the proof. I've have seen what amounts to evidence that Russia have done so, but not a solid shred on France.

That's because no one can get close to the evidence... too many unwashed Frenchers. partytime.gif
pappy177
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With the new Monterrey conference, a poll was made showing 87% of south americans have a negative view of Bush

what a crock.
france germany and russia are all owed billions from arms sales. Do you think its for oil? LOLPP.
And todays paper says most of the countries think Bush was rite to invade , the pissant countries like Libia are giveing up the WMD programs now and talking peace.
I don't care that much for Bush but he is my presedent , and France does and allways will suck hind tit!
Goofproof
QUOTE(wdoll @ Jan 11 2004, 09:31 AM)
That I agree but he left one out.

Tul? disgust.gif

It's someone's opinion.

Brovo!
Goofproof
QUOTE(BigO @ Jan 11 2004, 07:17 AM)
And your point is???

He got his boy didn't he?
mbeeston
YEAHAW!
Tul
QUOTE(pappy177 @ Jan 12 2004, 07:19 PM)
what a crock.
france germany and russia are all owed billions from arms sales. Do you think its for oil? LOLPP.
And todays paper says most of the countries think Bush was rite to invade , the pissant countries like Libia are giveing up the WMD programs now and talking peace.
I don't care that much for Bush but he is my presedent , and France does and allways will suck hind tit!

Haha, are you serious? 'Most of the countries' ? Which exactly is that, I hear very little but anti-bush sentiments. Not nearly all of that is because of the war, much stems from other fouls, such as Kyoto and the steel-tariffs, etc...

As for allegations against France and Germany, care to produce some evidence...? Sounds like wishful thinking on someones part....

Here, on the other hand is what the US sold to Iraq....


And what exactly does it mean that he 'is your president'...Does that make you loyal to him, even in face of all the crap he does and says?
And have you ever been to the France that you diss so?
ShadyCanuck
QUOTE(Tul @ Jan 11 2004, 07:37 AM)
Jeez, what a bunch of nonsense!

How exactly did the french "expose their cowardice and greed"..? By not bending over for Bush when he wanted a war...?
And tell, me what is refusing Kyoto, if not greed? The french accept that it will cost them alot of money and some competitiveness, yet they will give that up for the benefit of the environment...Bush will screw the environment to the last dollar.

As for being right, isn't that a matter of viewpoint? I think most of the world will agree that bush is, generally, in the wrong.
He'll do his worst to bully any country to back up his ill-concieved ideas, in a very un-democratic manner..
I mean, promising aid, trade, or different immigration laws if countries sign up to help him, is a pretty low blow to countries that are really needy....And he doesn't need the help, he just needs to show that he has a 'multi-national coalition'... Very black hat, IMO.
And honesty?? Like, Halliburton honesty?
Well, I could go on and on, but the last sentences..After speaking of 11/9, did he really get his man? Nope, more than 2 years after, OBL is still on the loose.

the french did not expose their cowardice in this conflict, we've known about since the germans rolled panzers into Paris with almost no resistance at all. the only time the french have ever wanted to go to war is when the Nazi's were taking all the good spots at the cafe's in paris.

In regards to Bush trading immigration or whatever other commodity, the other country has the ability to say NO.

The only realistic difference Kyoto will make is to inflate costs of manufacturing and hence drive prices of things up, not to mention countries can sign agreements till doomsday but there is no way to enforce it. Canada signed it and our pollution levels have increased marginally, the government is not doing anything about it either.

as for Osama, they shoudl have nuked afghanistan back to the stone age to get him, survivors, if any, wouldn't have noticed the difference in the place anyway.
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